Reply To: B-Sides of Siamese Dream Tape research

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Further analysis of the tape

1. The tape itself is exactly the same style of tape used for Virgin inhouse demo’s around 1993. SPfreaks.com has a few examples online.
2. The lack of Virgin logo’s is very uncommon, there are no known inhouse tapes like this.
3. The j-card looks genuine, including yellow-ish spots on places where you would expect them.
4. Following the tape running order and it’s commercial releases:

01. – Obscured – Today UK CD single, vinyl and tape 1993/09/30
02. – Whirl – Pisces Iscariot US CD, vinyl and tape 1994/10/04 as Whir
03. – Kitty Kat (Distorto Mix) – Today UK CD single, vinyl and tape 1993/09/30 as Hello Kitty Kat
04. – Apathy – Today UK red vinyl 1993/09/30 as Apathy’s Last Kiss
05. – Blew Away (Version #1) – Disarm UK CD and vinyl 1994/03/22
06. – Blew Away (Version #2) – Disarm UK CD and vinyl 1994/03/22
07. – Pissant – Cherub Rock UK CD single and vinyl 1993/07/13
08. – French Movie Theme – Cherub Rock UK CD single and vinyl 1993/07/13
09. – Purr Shnickety – Cherub Rock UK vinyl 1993/07/13
10. – Glynis – No Alternative US CD and vinyl 1993/11/?? or 1993/12/??
11. – Kitty Kat – Today UK CD single, vinyl and tape 1993/09/30 as Hello Kitty Kat
12. – Frail And Bedazzeled – Pisces Iscariot US CD, vinyl and tape 1994/10/04

One way it looks like a random mix of tracks, on the other hand the Cherub Rock b-sides are kept close to each other. Cherub Rock has the earliest release date of all tracks, which is 1993/07/13.

Further analysis of the music on the tape

Here we came to both a few amazing discoveries, as well as a few very disappointing facts.

Amazing: the quality of recording is just outstanding, almost extreme. It means at least 2 things: the sources are of high quality, and same for the tape itself. All tracks reach in the 20,000 Hz, or above. Normally a tape would cut at 18,000 Hz, or lower. This means the tracks all came from a digital source or a studio master, and are definately not vinyl- or tape sourced. Also, all tracks are the mastered tracks (done by Howie Weinberg of Masterdisc Corporation as we know) and are the versions that were used on the official releases, mentioned above. There is no doubt about that.

Amazing also: Purr Snickety was digitally compared to the only known digital source from 2005/04/05. This online source is cut at 16,000 Hz, while, as stated above, the tape gives the listener 20,000+ Hz. We can call this Purr Snickety version the highest quality version around at this moment. At the same time we can say this proves the authenticity of the tape, as only a studio master could be used to create this tape.

Disappointing: Blew Away (Version #1) and Blew Away (Version #2) are exactly the same tracks, there is no difference between them. Not any. Presuming this is a genuine Virgin inhouse demotape, this can only be explained by a rather wild guess that the person recording the tape made a mistake in programming the machines, and putting 2 same tracks behind each other, while this person intended to record 2 different versions.

Disappointing also: Kitty Kat (Distorto Mix) and Kitty Kat are exactly the same tracks, with 1 slight difference. Distorto Mix is recorded with a 1,39 decibel higher level as the other version. This was only noticed on the digital analysis, a standard listening ear can and will not determine this. We can only guess why this happened. For the moment this fact creates a lot of confusion and adds to the idea of a hoax tape.

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