I do like the songs themselves. I just can’t listen to the album start to finish. Its just gets to be too much that way. I think if Machina II was put with it, the album would have been better. I think more people could have appreciated it, with the material broken up a little better like on MCIS. As is, I think a lot of people just find listening to the whole thing a bit torturous, even if you love the Pumpkins. It does have cool album art though (videos not so much).