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Do you see what I’m getting at? <edit> iTunes? It blows, and I don’t want to support it. And I feel that this American Gothic bullshit forces me to because I live in the US.[/quote:32yrddcn]
No, I don’t understand a single penny of it, sorry. You told us yourself you are happy living in the US, a FREE country. So you choose to either buy it, or don’t buy it and wait for the next option, knowing already now there IS a next option. Happy you, you could at least choose. Many cannot.

Remember the times in the 1980’s when the vinyl platform was changed to the CD platform? Did you buy 1 of the first CD players for 2,500 US$ just because you had seen this album that was only pressed on CD and was not pressed on vinyl anymore? Probably not.

Next thing is, releasing music the oldfashioned way (like vinyl or CD) is way more expensive in the end, compared to an iTunes download. You can see that already on the iTunes prices. There is not "another layer of "someone gettin’ paid" to the music access" with iTunes. It’s another platform, just that. When CDs are being pressed, they need a jewelcase, a booklet, some artwork. There needs to be moulds, empty CDs, personel to do the actual pressing, assembling, packing. Then they ship it to another place/country, to the importer/wholeseller. The importer re-sells it to the shops, and ships it again. Expensive! iTunes skips a lot of these layers. Less expensive (in the end, after the initial costs of development of this new platform are covered)!

Don’t get me wrong, I hate iTunes too, as I want to hold a CD and read the booklet and admire the artwork in my hands also. But that’s another reason as iTunes being corporate or being another layer. It’s not completely true, and the part of it that is true… it’s been like that with every change of platform. This a new century, a new era manillascissor, blow that dust from your brains and get used to it :P[/quote:32yrddcn]

Again, I see your points Arthur, but it’s not the same. When vinyl converted over to CDs (after 8 tracks, cassettes, and laser discs), it’s agreed you had to then buy a CD player. That part is true. However, I, the consumer had my choice. I could buy Sony, Magnovox, Philips, JBC, Kenwood, etc. All the players were competing against each other. Which is better for the consumer. It was an even playing field as well, because in the end, I just need something to play a CD, nothing more. I could go with the player that made sounds out of the human hearing range, or get the cheapest POS on the market. Which company I went with was up to me. And I also had the choice to say, fuck it. Not buying another format. Vinyl or die!

But now I don’t. It’s iTunes or die! (Granted, I know it will be released elsewhere; but do all US fans know this?—-NO) For a majority of US fans, it’s use iTunes, or don’t get the music. Where’s the commercialism in that? Fuck that.

One more thing, I think we all recognize how cheaply CDs are made. Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking they don’t reap huge amounts of money by marking these fuckers up 1800%. Yes, record companies reap most of the profit, but they invest and absorb the advertising and promotion as well. You don’t think iTunes wanted this? You don’t think SP made a pretty penny on the deal? Wake up man. All they did was take out the middle man. And in the end, the fans are again FORCED to go to iTunes to get the music.

CAVEAT: Fans who live in US and don’t shop internationally – which I would assume, is the majority.

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