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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

And we have a tracklist, picked from Amazon (who has it on presale for $99.98 ).

I’m extremely happy with Disc 6, track 9! :)

Disc: 1
1 To Sheila
2 Ava Adore
3 Perfect
4 Daphne Descends
5 Once Upon A Time
6 Tear
7 Crestfallen
8 Appels + Oranjes
9 Pug
10 The Tale Of Dusty and Pistol Pete
11 Annie-Dog
12 Shame
13 Behold! The Night Mare
14 For Martha
15 Blank Page

Disc: 2
1 Adore mono version

Disc: 3
1 Blissed and Gond (Sadlands Demo)
2 Christmastime (Sadlands Demo)
3 My Mistake (Sadlands Demo)
4 Sparrow (Sadlands Demo)
5 Valentine (Sadlands Demo)
6 The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete (Sadlands Demo)
7 What If? (Streeterville Demo)
8 Chewing Gum (CRC Demo)
9 Once In A While (2014 Mix/CRC Demo)
10 Do You Close Your Eyes When You Kiss Me? (CRC Demo)
11 For Martha (Take 1/CRC Demo)
12 My Mistake (Take 1/CRC Demo)
13 Blissed And Gone (CRC Demo)
14 For Martha (Take 2/Instrumental/CRC Demo)

Disc: 4
1 For Martha (Symphonic Snippet/Instrumental)
2 Crestfallen (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
3 To Sheila (Early Banjo Version)
4 Ava Adore (Puffy Combs Remix 1998)
5 O Rio (Instrumental/Sadlands Demo)
6 Waiting (Adore Outtake)*
7 Once Upon A Time (Sadlands Demo)
8 Eye (2014 Mix/From The ‘Lost Highway’ Soundtrack)
9 Saturnine (For Piano and Voice)
10 Cash Car Star (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
11 Pug (Matt Walker Reimagined 2014)
12 Perfect (No Strings Version)
13 It’s Alright (Instrumental/Adore Outtake)
14 Czarina (Take 1/Adore Outtake)
15 Indecision (Sadlands Demo)
16 Blank Page (Early Version)

Disc: 5
1 Let Me Give The World To You (Adore Outtake)
2 Tear (From Digital Transfer)
3 Cross (Adore Outtake)
4 Because You Are (Adore B-Side)*
5 Jersey Shore (Sadlands Demo)
6 Shame (Take 1)
7 Summer (Instrumental/Adore Outtake)
8 Blissed And Gone (Drone Version)
9 Heaven (Instrumental/Sadlands Demo)
10 Daphne Descends (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
11 Saturnine (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
12 Behold! The Night Mare (Alternate Vocal)
13 Perfect (Acoustic Demo/Adore Outtake)
14 Dou You Close Your Eyes? (Adore Outtake)
15 The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning

Disc: 6
1 Ava Adore (Live/Sao Paulo Session)
2 Daphne Descends (Live/Sao Paulo Session)
3 The Tale Of Dusty And Pistol Pete (Live/Sao Paulo Session)
4 Tear (Live/Sao Paolo Session)
5 Shame (Live With Mancow/Chicago)
6 Blank Page (Live With Manco/Chicago)
7 To Sheila (Live/Nashville/Ryman Auditorium)
8 Money (That’s What I Want) (Live/Los Angeles/Dodger Stadium)
9 X.Y.U. Medley (Live/Los Angeles/Dodger Stadium) Includes: The Ethers Tragic, Never Say Never, Where Boys Fear To Tread
10 Transmission (Live/Chicago/Rehearsal)

Disc: 7
1 DVD – Fox Theatre, Atlanta, Georgia – August 4, 1998

Billy Corgan, December 2, 2008 : "Not everyone understands our death trip. But you do. And that's what matters."
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On amnesia wrote:

Ha. you beat me to it Arthur :lol: Posted a similar thread as well a few mins after yours :P

In loving memory of Bimbolin.
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On Arthur wrote:

Noticed that yeah lol!

It might be a wrong tracklist anyway, Billy tweeted this today:

\"AND btw, Amazon track list is WRONG. I’m just saying…\"

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

this is the correct tracklist:

Disc 1 – Adore: Stereo Remastered
01. To Sheila
02. Ava Adore
03. Perfect
04. Daphne Descends
05. Once Upon a Time
06. Tear
07. Crestfallen
08. Appels + Oranjes
09. Pug
10. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
11. Annie-Dog
12. Shame
13. Behold! the Night Mare
14. For Martha
15. Blank Page
16. 17

Disc 2 – Adore: Mono Remastered
01. To Sheila
02. Ava Adore
03. Perfect
04. Daphne Descends
05. Once Upon a Time
06. Tear
07. Crestfallen
08. Appels + Oranjes
09. Pug
10. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
11. Annie-Dog
12. Shame
13. Behold! the Night Mare
14. For Martha
15. Blank Page

Disc 3: In a State of Passage
01. Blissed and Gone (Sadlands Demo)
02. Christmastime (Sadlands Demo)
03. My Mistake (Sadlands Demo)
04. Sparrow (Sadlands Demo)
05. Valentine (Sadlands Demo)
06. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete (Sadlands Demo)
07. What If? (Streeterville Demo)
08. Chewing Gum (CRC Demo)
09. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete (CRC Demo)
10. The Ethers Tragic (Instrumental/ 2014 Mix/ CRC Demo)
11. The Guns of Love Disastrous (Instrumental/ 2014 Mix/ CRC Demo)
12. Annie-Dog (Take 10/ CRC Demo)
13. Once in a While (2014 Mix/ CRC Demo)
14. Do You Close Your Eyes When You Kiss Me? (CRC Demo)
15. For Martha (Take 1/ CRC Demo)
16. My Mistake (Take 1/ CRC Demo)
17. Blissed and Gone (CRC Demo)
18. For Martha (Take 2/ Instrumental/ CRC Demo)

Disc 4: Chalices, Palaces and Deep Pools
01. For Martha (Symphonic Snippet/ Instrumental)
02. Crestfallen (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014)
03. To Sheila (Early Banjo Version)
04. Ava Adore (Puffy Combs Remix 1998)
05. O Rio (Instrumental/ Sadlands Demo)
06. Waiting (Adore Outtake)
07. Once Upon a Time (Sadlands Demo)
08. Eye (2014 Mix/ From the ‘Lost Highway’ Soundtrack)
09. Saturnine (For Piano and Voice)
10. Cash Car Star (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014)
11. Pug (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014)
12. Perfect (No Strings Version)
13. It’s Alright (Instrumental/ Adore Outtake)
14. Czarina (Take 1/ Adore Outtake)
15. Indecision (Sadlands Demo)
16. Blank Page (Early Version)

Disc 5: Malice, Callous and Fools
01. Let Me Give the World to You (Adore Outtake)
02. Tear (From Digital Transfer)
03. Cross (Adore Outtake)
04. Because You Are (Adore B-Side)
05. Jersey Shore (Sadlands Demo)
06. Shame (Take 1)
07. Summer (Instrumental/ Adore Outtake)
08. Blissed and Gone (Drone Version)
09. Heaven (Instrumental/ Sadlands Demo)
10. Daphne Descends (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014)
11. Saturnine (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014)
12. Behold! the Night Mare (Alternate Vocal)
13. Perfect (Acoustic Demo/ Adore Outtake)
14. Do You Close Your Eyes? (Adore Outtake)
15. The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning

Disc 6: Kissed Alive Too
01. Ava Adore (Live/ Sao Paulo Session)
02. Daphne Descends (Live/ Sao Paulo Session)
03. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete (Live/ Sao Paulo Session)
04. Tear (Live/ Sao Paulo Session)
05. Shame (Live With Mancow/ Chicago)
06. Blank Page (Live With Mancow/ Chicago)
07. To Sheila (Live/ Nashville/ Ryman Auditorium)
08. Money (That’s What I Want) (Live/ Los Angeles/ Dodger Stadium)
09. X.Y.U. Medley (Live/ Los Angeles/ Dodger Stadium)
10. Transmission (Live/ Chicago/ Rehearsal)

Disc 7 – DVD: Fox Theater, Atlanta, GA – August 4, 1998
01. To Sheila
02. Behold! the Night Mare
03. Pug
04. Crestfallen
05. Ava Adore
06. Tear
07. Annie-Dog
08. Perfect
09. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
10. Tonight, Tonight
11. Once Upon a Time
12. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
13. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
14. Shame
15. For Martha
16. Blank Page
17. Transmission

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On Sven wrote:

hmmm the BC list looks somewhat better, still a lot of material we already have… seems this was not that productive a phase for the band and still Adore gets the full deal very extensive release while SD and Gish or even PI were quite smaller in the bonus section…

also: 17 missing from the Mono release? strange…

oh well, i will be getting this too, might skip the vinyl though… any news if the LP is mono or stereo?

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On OlDaisy wrote:

Looks swish overall. :)

I’m hoping they provide the digital d/ls again for these, not much room for ‘proper physical’ items in my life these days!

Something tells me the Machina release will be extra special, my Spider Sense is tingling that they’re putting extra effort into it… Well, here’s to wishful thinking: Ker-link. 8)

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

also: 17 missing from the Mono release? strange…[/quote:3pajzdp6]
the original mono release (on vinyl) also didn’t have 17. it’s the same mix, but now released – "for the first time" – on cd.

i guess the lp reissue will be the stereo mix, including 17, on 4 lp sides. this just seems the most likely scenario to me.

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On jawn till dusk wrote:

I think it would be cool if they switched the artwork for the vinyl to black and white as opposed to the colour version.

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

i predict pink and silver for the vinyl sleeve!

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On Sven wrote:
also: 17 missing from the Mono release? strange…[/quote:g98ocvie]
the original mono release (on vinyl) also didn’t have 17. it’s the same mix, but now released – "for the first time" – on cd.

i guess the lp reissue will be the stereo mix, including 17, on 4 lp sides. this just seems the most likely scenario to me.[/quote:g98ocvie]

yeah but it’s quite strange as 17 would fit now and didn’t fit on the 3LP sides of the mono vinyl…
oh well… minor detail.

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

I’m extremely happy with Disc 6, track 9! :)

Disc: 6
8 Money (That’s What I Want) (Live/Los Angeles/Dodger Stadium)
9 X.Y.U. Medley (Live/Los Angeles/Dodger Stadium) Includes: The Ethers Tragic, Never Say Never, Where Boys Fear To Tread[/quote:19ab8xpq]
but we already have these two tracks: http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/boot … oot_id=165
right?
or were you waiting for an upgrade?

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On Arthur wrote:

or were you waiting for an upgrade?[/quote:1wp3edb8]
Yup, that’s it. It’s my favorite rendition of X.Y.U., happy to have a proper quality version soon. :)

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On marigold wrote:

Looks swish overall. :)

I’m hoping they provide the digital d/ls again for these, not much room for ‘proper physical’ items in my life these days!

Something tells me the Machina release will be extra special, my Spider Sense is tingling that they’re putting extra effort into it… Well, here’s to wishful thinking: Ker-link. 8)[/quote:6kxkpouz]

Digital d/ls for me too, shipping cost is WAY too high to buy any of these physical copies these days…

 
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On Arthur wrote:

This is the live concert of the Adore reissue release. I think it’s pretty epic. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl7WcWPabTQ

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On Sven wrote:

SPOILER ALERT – SPOILER ALERT – SPOILER ALERT

just started to listen and have a lot of reviews to do and other work, so haven’t had a chance to dive into this amazing treasure trove because it is so much this time around…

however, remarkable >
Disc 3: In a State of Passage
07. What If? (Streeterville Demo) > stunning song!!!!
10. The Ethers Tragic (Instrumental/ 2014 Mix/ CRC Demo) > very nice insight into the building of the Batman tracks
11. The Guns of Love Disastrous (Instrumental/ 2014 Mix/ CRC Demo)
15. For Martha (Take 1/ CRC Demo)
18. For Martha (Take 2/ Instrumental/ CRC Demo) > both are amazing!!!!

Disc 4: Chalices, Palaces and Deep Pools
01. For Martha (Symphonic Snippet/ Instrumental) > a nice, the electric solo part layer!!!
02. Crestfallen (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) > superb remix!
08. Eye (2014 Mix/ From the ‘Lost Highway’ Soundtrack) > amazing remix, much more depth!
09. Saturnine (For Piano and Voice) > meh, pretty damn awful true demo, loads of work to be done there… :)
10. Cash Car Star (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) > damn, loads of work needed to be done there, luckily it was done later :)
12. Perfect (No Strings Version) > very dry version, a brilliant song, love this sparse take
15. Indecision (Sadlands Demo) > uhm, why? BC tinkering with electronics without the assistance of Bon Harris and Bjorn, kinda cute…

Disc 5: Malice, Callous and Fools
01. Let Me Give the World to You (Adore Outtake) > brilliant song, just doesn’t fit on the album in any concievable way as far as I am concerned…agree with BC, might have been a nice stand alone single, does have a feel quite like Untitled…
02. Tear (From Digital Transfer) > massive!
03. Cross (Adore Outtake) > features some nice cross overs into Glass & The Ghost Children meets Eye… ;)
04. Because You Are (Adore B-Side) > LOUD!

more to follow at the Listening Party :) :) :)

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

Thanks, Sven.

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On Sven wrote:

a couple more :) >
Disc 5: Malice, Callous and Fools
08. Blissed and Gone (Drone Version) > meh, didn’t just click with this song is my guess, so many versions tried and tested…
09. Heaven (Instrumental/ Sadlands Demo) > bloody great rocking song; never heard anything like this before from the Adore-sessions era…
10. Daphne Descends (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) > supreme version; my preferred version; epic and highly digitally enhanced with lots of extra layers brought out – a true stunner!!! I would not mind the least bit to hear the whole album redone / remixed by Matt – the Nitzer Ebb-beat (slightly Front 242-ish) is menacing here!
11. Saturnine (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) > moving further into gothic territory, gets pretty close to the Batman-songs; futurtistic rock galore, quite haunting and pounding – again: supreme version; my prefeered version and I can very much so see this work on a dark / gothic / wave dance night dance floor – vocals very much up front and direct; would have been a smashing single and only now it occurs to me how akin this song is to Ava Adore, like sonic siblings… :) :)

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On Sven wrote:

what’s also pretty clear from several songs ( like Do You Close Your Eyes?) is that BC was playing around with a lot of ideas melodywise that landed on the Batman-tracks… these outtakes might not be awesome in their own right, but – more than any other re-issue before – these do project an amazing sonic image of TSP in this time frame with creativity floating in several songs and finding its place in the final Batman-tracks… sonically this is somewhat between Adore and Eye, with some Ransom-inflections. and: it makes total sense…
also: with MCIS / TAFH the band jammed out a lot of tracks and used snippets and riffs to build songs… with Adore its obviously the case BC did most of the work and worked on ideas into \"songs\" and eventually with the help of producers et al (most definately Flood) into real songs. there’s very little to none \"jamming\" here, but I guess you could see these \"songs\" as \"jams\" of sorts…
extremely interesting historically and I really feel BC has hit a home run with this re-issue! by far the very very very best so far!
I mean…
Gish > BC kinda did not want to dive into what went on before, as in: going back to the really early years with the earliest versions of what would become the hippy trippy rock sound of Gish, plus: there’s not that much from the studio as there was not much time nor budget.
SD > BC kinda went the same way as with Gish and SD was kind of scattershot with lots of ideas not fitting in the monolith sound and thus relegated to b-side and eventually PI status…
PI > basically that’s PI plus a single disc version of Mashed Potatoes and the first demo tape
MCIS > paints a bloody amazing picture of the creativity at the peak, building the album with all the numerous takes, demos, et al.
TAFH > true display of all the creative forces at work live (Double Door) and in studio jams and trying out totally different areas…

Now with Adore – which in my opinion is maybe the most coherent TSP album sonically and also musically – all seems to click quite amazingly in terms of presenting the building blocks and the ground work plus working towards the album version and also the translation to the live stage…

Or maybe I just rekindled my love for the album that’s my most cherished one in the collection… :)

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On Sven wrote:

the first four tracks from the Live disc 6…
From Sao Paulo session????
does anyone know which session?
both SPFC and SPLRA don’t list this semi-acoustic session that sounds like a radio session without audience.

the takes are AMAZING!!!!!! the recording is crystal clear!!!!

also: very smart move to take show from the latter stages of the tour as the band shows sublime form…!

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

more to follow at the Listening Party :) :) :)[/quote:8nhowyxk]

but sven, they won’t let you in if you already have listened to the reissue. you’ll have to stay outside and try to listen through the window…

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On Sven wrote:

:) :) Hmmm… in that case I think I’ll blast the cd’s from home and see if they can hear me all the way in Bergen op Zoom :) :)

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On Sven wrote:

I am not quite sure now if we have 3 or 4 Blissed and Gone versions…

Blissed and Gone (Sadlands demo) = the version from Adore Demos I and II
Blissed and Gone (CRC demo)
Blissed and Gone (Drone version)

Blissed and Gone as appears on SBA and JO > Now, I need to check if one of the other two on Adore Deluxe is the same…

Once again – a very important song to BC, tried so many different approaches and it doesn’t get to be on the album or even a release as b-side… Amazing…

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So I checked… It’s four versions of Blissed and Gone

Blissed and Gone (Sadlands demo) = the version from Adore Demos I and II
Blissed and Gone (CRC demo) = rough take
Blissed and Gone (Drone version) = subdued droney version
Blissed and Gone (JO/SBA) – production master with drum machine

Pretty awesome to see this evolution up close :) :) :)

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The Dodger Stadium live tracks sound extremely crystal clear and lack some punch for my taste – a bit on the thin side – the bootlegs are much more MASSIVE (tape saturation / tape noise sometimes works wonders)… but then again, the band is splendid here! :)

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On milan wrote:

Sven, you are now officially banned from the listening party. You’ll have to stand outside.

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On milan wrote:

Band was in Sao Paula in august 1998, that’s all we know now.

Here a video from the same period. Amazing!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXLMx5JEELk

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Seems that the Spotify version of the deluxe package is missing LMGTWTY. Not that I have been listening, of course not! :roll:

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And What If?

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On Arthur wrote:

And What If?[/quote:5c78t5v2]
(Just don’t tell Milan… :wink: )

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NO LISTENING!!! That includes not listening to missing tracks on Spotify!!!!

On another note, most likely the event will be hosted in Rotterdam. I’m very happy to welcome you at my home, but with all of my kids running around the house it will be more convenient to host this party in a place known to be quiet during the weekends (my work-office).

Details will follow when Arthur finalizes the guest-list and the have-to-stand-outside-list.

Cheers!

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This would be amazing!

Sadly Scotland has to to refrain this time due to money reasons.

Another time (Machina?) would be great!

Would be amazing to meet the folks from here.x

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

So who’s got what?

I’m wondering how many different (country) releases there are for each version:
– Super Deluxe box set (6CD+1DVD)
– Double LP remastered
– CD Album remastered (1CD)

Did the box set and the double LP only get a US pressing, available worldwide? Or is there also a UK/EU pressing available?

I assume there are multiple country pressings of the 1CD version. This was always the case with the previous reissues.

Thanks for all info!

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

I’ve only got the box set so far.
It’s a US copy. (It has the FBI anti-piracy warning.) I bought it online, but I don’t think they sent it from the US. So I think for this box set, there’s only a US pressing.
Correct?

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On manillascissor wrote:

no idea bram. i only bought the vinyl (US) so far. saw the US box and CD as well. i’ll keep looking.

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

i hope to have a look for the LP and regular 1CD version soon.

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On jawn till dusk wrote:

I bought all of mine from Amazon UK this time.

Standard cd – EU

Box – US

Vinyl – I can’t see anything that tells me. :?

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

thanks, jawn till dusk!

Vinyl – I can’t see anything that tells me. :?[/quote:1m1n80es]
nothing? no "made in the EU" or "FBI anti piracy warning"?
what’s the matrix code on side 1?

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Can’t see anything.

Matrix – 0602537930449

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On manillascissor wrote:

here’s the EU vinyl pressing. seems heavily prevalent in the UK.

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On manillascissor wrote:

looks like there is a JP CD and deluxe CD release as well

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On jawn till dusk wrote:

My back insert seems to have vanished.

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

thx for the EU LP info, manilla.

looks like there is a JP CD and deluxe CD release as well[/quote:2hcyun5y]
it’s not unlikely that the japanese box set release is just the US pressing, with some JP inserts/obi/… added. it’s always been like that before, if i’m not mistaken.

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