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Topic: Arthur – Soma

This topic contains 29 replies, has 4,840 voices, and was last updated by Profile photo of doubtful-della Doubtful-Della 8 years, 12 months ago.

On Doubtful-Della wrote:

I need an explantion, if you have the time, as to why this song means so much to you.

I like it, but haven’t chosen it to play at my funeral.

Why have you?

in my time of dying
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On manillascissor wrote:

Nothing left to say
And all Ive left to do
Is run away
From you

And she led me up, down
With secrets I cant keep
Close your eyes and sleep
Dont wait up for me
Hush now dont you speak
To me

Wrap my hurt in you
And took my shelter in that pain
The opiate of blame
Is you broken heart, your heart

So now Im all by myself
As Ive always felt
Ill betray my tears
To anyone caught in our ruse of fools

One last kiss for me…yeah
One last kiss good night

Didnt want to lose you once again
Didnt want to be your friend
Fulfill a promise made of tears
And crawled back to you

Now Im all by myself
As Ive always felt
And Ill betray myself
To anyone, anyone but you

So let the sadness come again
On that you can depend on me
Until the bitter, bitter end
When good sleeps in bliss

And Im all by myself
As Ive always felt
And Ill betray myself
To anyone

in my time of dying
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On blueczarina wrote:

maybe he just thinks it kicks ass? :wink: i was wondering that too though manilla.

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On Arthur wrote:

Not only kicks ass, it’s way more than that… Almost every Pumpkins song kicks ass, but Soma goes way deeper.

The text says it all, the guitar goes so well with it, when it goes from a balad part to a rock part, it suits the song so well, it has a non-standard song length of over 6 minutes, and all this is just blablabla to explain something that I cannot explain. This song makes me cry almost every time I listen to it, really. Especially when Billy Corgan ends the song with that \"how now na na ooohh!\" part. Shivers! Soma is my private moment of melancholy, anger, love, sleep, philosophy, etc. As if it was my life itself or something. Everything and all that is there. Being all my own gods in one. The cold outside of me & the warmth inside me. Blablabla.

So, when I want my friends and family to know what Smashing Pumpkins means to me, it’s Soma.

On a sidenote, there are 2 songs that come really close to Soma, that’s Led Zeppelins’ \"No Quarter\" and a song I know since my youth from a Dutch band called Hallo Venray ( http://www.myspace.com/hallovenray ) – Tuck, The Man. This last song is my anthem for the girls (I’m gonna try to find a MP3 for you guys for that song, it’s awesome), No Quarter is about being alone and find your own way in life, and Soma puts everything together in 1 song. Those 3 songs are on the list to be played at my funeral, with Soma as the absolute #1.

Billy Corgan, December 2, 2008 : "Not everyone understands our death trip. But you do. And that's what matters."
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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

i am gonna have all sp at my funeral, and it will all end with porcelina. i think it is perfect, i thought about the everlasting gaze, but that might be too fucked up. \"you know i’m not dead\". i think it is funny, but i don’t think other people would.

but i thought porcelina would be a great last song at my funeral.

as far as you take me, that’s where i believe
the realm of soft delusions, floating on the leaves
on a distant shoreline, she waves her arms to me
as all the thought police, are closing in for sleep
the dilly dally, of my bright lit stay
the steam of my misfortunes
has given me the power to be afraid
and in my mind i’m everyone
and in my mind
without a care in this whole world
without a care in this life
it’s what you take that makes it right
porcelina of the oceans blue
in the slipstream, of thoughtless thoughts
the light of all that’s good, the light of all that’s true
to the fringes gladly, i walk unadorned
with gods and their creations
with filth and disease
porcelina, she waits for me there
with seashell hissing lullabyes
and whispers fathomed deep inside my own
hidden thoughts and alibis
my secret thoughts come alive
without a care in this whole world
without a care in this life
it’s what you take that makes it right
and in my mind i’m everyone
in my mind i’m everyone of you
you make it right
it’s all allright
you make it right
porcelina of the oceans blue

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On Arthur wrote:

"you know i’m not dead". i think it is funny, but i don’t think other people would.[/quote:32j0mcit]
I definately would have a little smile on my face about that, while attending your funeral. I would think it’s extremely funny. :lol:

And yeah, I have thought about an all SP ceremony also, but it wouldn’t do justice to my wider taste I guess.

Billy Corgan, December 2, 2008 : "Not everyone understands our death trip. But you do. And that's what matters."
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On Anonymous wrote:

Soma rules!!! I need SP in my ear right now…

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On amnesia wrote:

Soma is a masterpiece,great lyrics great music.Its playing on my Winamp now, its been while since i listen to it

In loving memory of Bimbolin.
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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

i have had the everlasting gaze stuck in my head all morning.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On Anonymous wrote:

I have had Pissant stuck in my head for a few days now….

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On blueczarina wrote:

i thought about the everlasting gaze, but that might be too fucked up. "you know i’m not dead". i think it is funny, but i don’t think other people would.[/quote:noelg7tp]

i would find it funny :lol: :wink:

i currently have no funeral plans, so i don’t know what i would want to play although now i have Porcelina stuck in my head just from thinking about it. :P

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

i just thought break it out right after they say super nice stuff about me. it would really shake things up. but it would be fucked up, and i don’t think the funeral people would think it was funny either.

but when i went to the funeral for the lady who lived accross the street from me, it was all pink with tons of flowers, it was kinda nice, but kinda looked like a brothel, but i didn’t say so. but if she (the lady who died) had seen it, she would hve died again, after yelling at her kids. she was a really neat lady, but about a year ago she got really bad wit the althzimers, we have lived accross from her for 7 years, and she was forgetting my name, and we visited her every day for 7 years. so you know it was getting bad.

and they sang a really dumb hymn at her funeral, she would have been mad at that too, that is why i am making all the plans now. plus i think i will make it mandatory that everyone wear black, and have a list, like at a club, and if you’re not on the list you can’t come. that would be funny too, have bouncers at your funeral. hehe

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On Marcella wrote:

Ahaha, bouncers :lol:. I just imagined all this people outside on line and the bouncer asking for ID’s to enter your funeral.

Fevrale dostat chernil i plakatPisat O Fevrale navsnrydPoka grohochushaya slyakotVesnoyu charnoyu gorit
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On natascha wrote:

soma is the best…it is more then just a song…
about soma:…does anyone know -brave new world-? take some soma…

wrap me up in alwaysdrag me in with maybes
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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

Ahaha, bouncers :lol:. I just imagined all this people outside on line and the bouncer asking for ID’s to enter your funeral.[/quote:3mo6ax66]

that is what i want, people clammoring to get in!

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On manillascissor wrote:

soma is the best…it is more then just a song…
about soma:…does anyone know -brave new world-? take some soma…[/quote:y52ycsw3]

What do you mean?

in my time of dying
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On blueczarina wrote:
soma is the best…it is more then just a song…
about soma:…does anyone know -brave new world-? take some soma…[/quote:1sw0wymt]

What do you mean?[/quote:1sw0wymt]

they take "soma" to zonk themselves out in the book Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. its some kind of drug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soma

http://www.huxley.net/soma/somaquote.html

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

i have had it before, they prescribed it to me when i hurt my back years and years ago, and when i got the bottle and looked at it i was like, huh, i geuss that is what the song is named after.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On Anonymous wrote:

soma is about prescription meds? had no idea, but then again I am not much for prescribed meds-unless absolutely necessary
and make it the ones that knock me the funk out

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

those do, out like a light, at least they did me, i pulled my back way out of wack, so they gave me soma, something else and sent me to the chiropractor.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On blueczarina wrote:

i didn’t know people actually took it. i just associated it with that book and Billy’s song.

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On Anonymous wrote:

well damn…I threw my back out of wack a few years ago and they didn’t give me soma..damn them.
They thought I had a kidney infection at first, damn them for giving me crap pills..
soma just sounds better than whatever shit they had me taking, but I quit taking them because I hate pills…

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On manillascissor wrote:

well damn…I threw my back out of wack a few years ago and they didn’t give me soma..damn them.
They thought I had a kidney infection at first, damn them for giving me crap pills..
soma just sounds better than whatever shit they had me taking, but I quit taking them because I hate pills…[/quote:3a4ju2vm]

i’ll PM you my address. i love pills. :S

in my time of dying
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On blueczarina wrote:

shame, shame :? we are suppose to be pumpkin dealing not drug dealing :?

:P hehe, jk- i hope :wink: :wink:

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

the only pills i take are bc pills, and ibeprophen. that is it. i don’t like to take any kind of pills.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On Anonymous wrote:

I don’t drug deal…I don’t have anything worth dealing unless you want outdated pills…and 2 outdated epipens-and maybe a Machina sticker…lol

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

i’ll take the sticker! hehe

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On Anonymous wrote:

i’ll take the sticker! hehe[/quote:2twx0z3p]
If I had 2 I’d give you one, but I don’t yet….

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On Anonymous wrote:

I wonder if Billy will lay Soma on this tour??
Probably…

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On Doubtful-Della wrote:

I didn’t read through the whole thing. It’s been a while since I’ve thought about funeral songs. I do know that instead of a sermon or eulogy whatever they are called… I just want a 45 minute slideshow. Remember all the good times… not sit there and dwell on missing me.

Dying doesn’t scare me… but the thought of not knowing does. Not knowing what my loved ones are going through, who went to my funeral, who really misses me, who forgets me, how they cope. Those thoughts scare me.

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