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Topic: HOLY CRAP THIS IS F#CKED UP! I think I just bought ….

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On blueczarina wrote:

a weird SP gig poster from that crazy Veronica Grey who thinks shes Billy’s wife. Check this out and tell me what you think. When I opened my \"I won on ebay\" email my jaw dropped. All I could think was HOLY CRAP. I think she might have switched allegiance over to Nirvana too. THIS IS SO F#UCKED UP.

First off here is the poster and the ebay description.


Awesome RARE Smashing Pumpkins poster

taken directly off the wall of the Cabaret Metro in Chicago
then framed
It was gifted The Night of Their Final Metro Show on December 2, 2000

The Poster is super rare – from a show they did on April 30 at The Metro
when the Smashing Pumpkins were the Supporting Act
and the Buck Pets were the Headliners.

This poster must be Circa 1990.

It comes Framed Exactly As in the Photo.

We are Sacrificing the Rare Collector’s Item due to allegiance to Nirvana. And Cancel.

Namaste.

[/quote:3h92800l]
The seller goes by heartshapedboxinutero and has changed thier ebay name in the last 30 days according to the listing.

When I saw the poster I was a bit suspicious. I looked about and figured the best candidate for the gig date was Sunday, April 30, 1989. It matches the info on the poster, which has no year on it. I also figured it had to be early as they aren’t headlining. I’m going to see if I can contact the other to bands on it to see if they ever played with the SP on myspace. I noticed they bot have pages they have checked recently. I tried to ask PMM if they knew if the SP had performed with these bands, but they didn’t know, so I’m going to try other avenues.

I asked this person for a little more info and here is the email.

That show in 2000 was Their Final SP Show ever, as the Original
LineUp (minus d’Arcy.)
So there was a bunch of \"memorabilia\" that was On Display for
the Afterparty, which made the Event Nostalgic.

The Auction ends today…and if You live in Northern CA, we’ll
drop the frame off. Otherwise we ship carefully.
Namaste.
[/quote:3h92800l]
As you can see it was stolen fron the Metro supposedly. This person also curiosly signs with a Hindu greeting. (Remember Veronica is also into weird new age religion stuff and appears to associate with some new age religious groups or something. )

I won the item and this is the creepy email I recieved that has me convinced for sure that it comes from Vernica Grey.
I will put in bold face the important parts.

Hi there Monica, Congratulations on winning the poster. We will be shipping It Out as soon as we Receive Your Payment. That’s a total of $120.15 which includes shipping and tax. We’ll make sure it arrives Safely in Billings as soon as possible. Check Our Ebay in a few days, as we’ll be listing more rare items. Sincerely, Kurt’s email for Ebay is EternalYouthEmpire@gmail.com

Please email me at fysche@gmail.com if you have any questions.

Thank you again for your purchase.

heartshapedboxinutero

[/quote:3h92800l]
Now where to begin. For starters Veronica Grey goes by the alias Fysche (hence the email). And the EternalYouthEmpire or EYE was the organization that was putting out that book where Billy was supposedly quoted talking about immortality. She put a thread about it on SP.com using another alias SisterCan’t Spell. I would find it, but some of the user news scroll buttons aren’t working.
Here is ebays info on her ebay name change with her old user name and the dates she had it along with her new one and the dates.

heartshapedboxinutero May-24-08 Present

vgc747 Aug-11-07 May-24-08

Now what does \"vgc\" stand for? Hmm, could it be Veronica Grey Corgan. And 747 stands for the date she claims to have married Billy.
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=147319
Now to the Nirvana/ SP thing. Obviously she is done with Billy and has gotten a new sick obsession. I would like to draw your attention to the following things.
1. She changed her name to heartshapedboxinutero.
2. She says this in the ebay description.

We are Sacrificing the Rare Collector’s Item due to allegiance to Nirvana.[/quote:3h92800l]
3. And lastly

Check Our Ebay in a few days, as we’ll be listing more rare items. Sincerely, Kurt’s email for Ebay is EternalYouthEmpire@gmail.com

Please email me at fysche@gmail.com if you have any questions.
[/quote:3h92800l]
You notice the \"we\" and the Kurt (as in Cobain). Looks like Billy has been dumped for a dead rockstar.

I know this site isn’t as active so I’m putting this here. Once I get the item I will maybe spread it elsewhere. I don’t know if she would get pissed and not send it if this ended up on a bigger SP site, as her cover has been blown once again. I just had to tell someone, but SHHHH for now except here.
This is so f#ucked up.

EDIT:
I decided to look about and see if she is a Nirvana wierdo now and I found her many myspace pages that prove she is now indeed obsessed with Kurt Cobain.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu … D=32673397
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu … d=17115716
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu … =193951135

EDIT:
I’m not buying it anymore. Its wrong, so very wrong. :oops:

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

is this about the cool poster or about v. grey?

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Member
On blueczarina wrote:

this is about the cool poster i just bought from Veronica Grey Billy’s old stalker wierdo

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

cool poster.

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On blueczarina wrote:

its a cool poster, but a freaky coincidence :wink:

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On blueczarina wrote:

i’m just kind of weirded out thats all :wink:

when i PM-ed PMM they asked for a pic and more about the item- i guess this will interest them

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

that is freaky weird. that v grey is a weirdo.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On blueczarina wrote:

that is freaky weird. that v grey is a weirdo.[/quote:2pa3g1po]

tell me about it. who would think i would run into this on ebay. its so weird. :wink:

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On Anonymous wrote:

It’s just coming up to 1:10am here now and I must sleep, although this topic’s title in itself warrants a good reading over tomorrow. :)

How do I know?

Billy Corgan told me telepathically a short while ago. :?

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On blueczarina wrote:

It’s just coming up to 1:10am here now and I must sleep, although this topic’s title in itself warrants a good reading over tomorrow. :)

How do I know?

Billy Corgan told me telepathically a short while ago. :?[/quote:1ntbuaav]

:lol:
you must have at least gave it a skimming

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

i thought billy only talked to me telepathically, oh man, i feel so dirty now.

do you think she stole it? i hope not for your sake czarina.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On blueczarina wrote:

geeze, i guess Billy is communicating all over the place with people. no wonder she dumped him. :lol:

i think maybe she did steal it. i’m not sure though, because i don’t know if she is a trustable source on anything. i’m also not sure about the authenticity of the poster because it has no year on it, she doesn’t know the year of it, and i can’t find any info on the concert that says they had a gig with these bands.
i haven’t paid for it yet though, i don’t know if i will. it feels wrong now that i know more about it and who has it. i may just cancel the whole thing. i don’t want something stolen from Billy or the Metro and i don’t want to pay his stalker. i wouldn’t mind having an early gig poster, but this feels like a bad way of getting one. i think i may just say screw it and not get it. :oops:

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On Sven wrote:

you didn’t exactly need to steal it @ Metro.
i was at the final performance.
the walls in the lobby/hall were plastered with these kinda posters.
these were photocopies of the original ones in Metro’s vast archive.
after the show, a lot of people took down these posters as a souvenir.
this seems to be one of those.

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On Sven wrote:

also-
the show is know – it’s 890430
there’s even a recording of this concert.
poster’s most likely a copy of the actual gig poster.
date is genuine.
seller might be a little bit wacky, but still…
nothing too far off the wall imho.

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

the fact that it’s a photocopy makes it less \"rare\" than i thought it was.

still a cool poster though. 1989-04-30. one of the few shows that year that we have a recording of.

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On ObscureD wrote:

$120 for a piece of paper… :?

...Magnetic Happiness...
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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

well, i am glad you came to a descision.
and i was gonna say 120 for a poster, that is a bit much, unless billy signed it and it didn’t come from his stalker.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On manillascissor wrote:

nothing too far off the wall imho.[/quote:ps4g18rq]

The irony of this statement cracked me up. :lol:

in my time of dying
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Keymaster
On manillascissor wrote:

the fact that it’s a photocopy makes it less "rare" than i thought it was.

still a cool poster though. 1989-04-30. one of the few shows that year that we have a recording of.[/quote:2svprv6w]

Agreed. I was gonna bid on that, as I like the poster, but I have no money these days. Oh well. Glad now that I didn’t. Had no idea it was potentially just a copy. That really sucks. :(

in my time of dying
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On Anonymous wrote:

It’s a shame things turned out this way, as the poster looks quite swish in itself. I’d never been into collecting these, so no doubt many people would have thought nothing of it and bid away…

Although I’m suspicious that the Seller’s possibly a very clever joker and one step ahead, I’d probably let this go too, if possible.

Detective Blue’s done an impressive job on this and so I took the time to read Ms Grey’s various ‘doings’ around the ‘Net. Normally I’m too lazy, curiosity set in though. :) I try to keep some mystery and magic so as not to know too much about the Pumpkins as people, etc.

I hope things work out well in any case, unless I’ve mis-read it, you’d have to pay the $ now anyway? Let us know what happens and good luck buddy. :D

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

well, a little ebay info, you don’t have to pay for the item, the seller can start a nonpaying bidder dispute, and czarina can say why she is not going to pay for it. but one nonpaying bidder strike will not ruin her ebay feedback. and she can’t get negative feedback, because sellers are not allowed to give it anymore, but czarina can give her negative feedback if she wanted. and if she explaines to ebay why she is not paying they might not even give her the non paying bidder strike.

i have been on ebay for about 9 years and i have only one non paying bidder strike, and my feedback is 100%, i might add it is over 1000, and i am a power seller, so she should be fine.

and czarina, if you want i have a phone number for ebay if you want it.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On blueczarina wrote:

i’ll take the phone number bullet. i’m not paying for this. this situation is bullshit all around.

she says she has more stuff too.

:evil:

and as for the $120, she actually inflated the price from the winning bid of $100 in that email, so she has also probably broken some ebay rules there. i’m sure i will be fine if i turn her in.

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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

ok, i will pm it to you.

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton
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On Arthur wrote:

Anyway, for some reason I’m glad she’s off our back now. Let Kurt answer her calls now. :wink:

Billy Corgan, December 2, 2008 : "Not everyone understands our death trip. But you do. And that's what matters."
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On bullettwoutbutterflywings wrote:

he will probably let it go to voice mail. :wink:

"shiny, let's be bad guys"--jayne cobb-the hero of canton

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