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Topic: Lost Highway 2LP (Bootleg?)

This topic contains 10 replies, has 4 voices, and was last updated by Profile photo of manillascissor manillascissor 3 months ago.

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Keymaster
On manillascissor wrote:

upon visiting amoeba records yesterday, i found a copy of the lost highway soundtrack on 2LP.  i picked it up to investigate further and they wanted $28 for it.  usually, it’s about 10X that.  so i was intrigued.  i asked why they were selling it so cheap and the gentleman said many people had questioned him about it and he didn’t know.  but that four other copies were recently sold.  i think it’s a bootleg, here’s why:

  1. they had the chicago tapes and unreleased demos vinyl for sale there as well.  obvious bootleg
  2. the record didn’t seem to weigh enough (probably not 180g)
  3. no heavy outer plastic jacket
  4. gatefold sleeve TOO perfect.  the originals almost ALL show signs of edge wear.  never seen a copy this pristine
  5. wasn’t sealed by manufacturer.  just stuck in generic plastic oversized sleeve and folded/taped to fit record
  6. over the counter purchase by amoeba – no provenance.  they didn’t order from a distributor, just a person who sold them a few at a time, for whatever non disclosed price
  7. did a bit of online research and can find nothing relating to a reissue from simplyvinyl’s wordpress page.  last post from 2011

either way, if you want this on vinyl for a cheap price, go for it.  i just think it’s fake.

happy hunting

in my time of dying
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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

interesting!

what about the matrix code? what does that say?

according to discogs.com, there’s a US and a EU pressing of this record: http://www.discogs.com/master/view/19820
i never knew that. could that be a mistake? it looks like they listed the same pressing twice.
discogs.com doesn’t mention anoter LP version of the soundtrack.

spfreaks entry: http://spfreaks.com/item/lost-highway-5/

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Keymaster
On manillascissor wrote:

i had no idea there were two pressings.  i’m inclined to think that’s kind of bullshit.  i wasn’t able to open the record to view the matrix codes.  i had decided it was a bootleg, so i don’t want to spend nearly $30 for that information, although helpful.

every copy i’ve tracked on eBay comes from EU.  never seen one in the US, even for sale.

in my time of dying
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Moderator
On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

Yes, I also believe that’s probably a mistake on discogs.com. They probably added the same release twice.
(It’s hard to see where the LP comes from. I can’t find “made in Europe” mentioned anywhere, on first sight. So one could easily assume it’s a US release.)

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Keymaster
On manillascissor wrote:

no, i didn’t buy it, but that’s probably what it is.  interesting in the auction it states it as an “unofficial release”.  so i think we can close the case on this new vinyl being a complete fake.

however, if you’re after the sound on vinyl for a cheaper price, hey, why not!?

in my time of dying
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Moderator
On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

I’ll tell you why not:

If you’re after the sound on vinyl, why would you settle for a bootleg, where you have no idea where this “sound” comes from?

Most of these bootlegs are just an attempt to cash in on the fact that the original record is very rare.
Bootleggers typically don’t really care that much about sound quality. My guess is that they just took the cd, and used that to make the vinyls. (If you use a cd to make a record, you completely lose all the advantages of “sound on vinyl”.)

Another option is that they transferred the audio from one of the original records. (And then most likely processed the audio, to clean it up a bit.) This also isn’t very interesting, if you want audio quallity.

It’s always possible that the original vinyl was sourced from a cd, although I find that unlikely. In that case it doesn’t make much of a difference, but the point still stands: you’re not getting the “sound on vinyl”, as it’s cd sourced.

Or maybe the bootleggers got their hands on the original audio, mastered for vinyl, or on the original pressing plates. Once again, unlikely. Who would give it to them?

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Keymaster
On manillascissor wrote:

i totally agree with everything you’re saying.  i meant “sound on vinyl” as the pops and whisps and crackles.  THAT sound, not necessarily a superior sound.i would say, oh, don’t support the bootleggers!, but i just don’t care anymore about that.  it’s up to the consumer.  personally, i just walked away.  no need for that vinyl in my collection.although, i might pick up a copy just to document on this site.  hmmm….

in my time of dying
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On zeroo wrote:

Today I received the one,sounds like CD…

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

i was in a record shop yesterday, and found a version of the lost highway records i hadn’t seen before.
i didn’t buy it, because it was a bootleg (obviously).

the back of the sleeve looks completely different, and there was no mention of a record label and no barcode.

i found it on discogs.com: https://www.discogs.com/Various-Lost-Highway/release/8511188

this is what the back of the sleeve looks like:

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Keymaster
On manillascissor wrote:

wow, they keep coming with new boot variants on this one!

in my time of dying

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