Topic: Open your eyes
On 2008.01.20 at 4:04 pm BleedingTheOrchid wrote:
It’s a 2 hour long documentary.
If you truly value your life and freedom, this is a movie you MUST watch.
On 2008.01.20 at 6:04 pm Cool As Ice Cream wrote:
i think i’ll pass.
On 2008.01.20 at 6:05 pm Superlordspamulon wrote:
i think i’ll pass. [/quote:3ojbpkfr]
Would it change your mind if i said it was closer to 1 hour, 56 minutes rather than 2 hours?
On 2008.01.20 at 9:56 pm Cool As Ice Cream wrote:
it would change my mind if you said it was closer to 1 minute, 56 seconds rather than 2 minutes.
yay for my attention span!
On 2008.01.20 at 10:45 pm Arthur wrote:
I watched it, I mean I listened to it mostly, while I was doing some maintenance on SPfreaks tonight. The first chapter about Astrology and the history of religion before Jesus was quite entertaining, & the other parts about 9-11 & Terrorism, the role of Central Banks, Education and War are kinda common knowledge. I mean, to my generation… (ahem! ). These things were broadcast on National Geographic also if I remember well. Some very shocking images I remember also… that guy jumping from the World Trade Center, slowly going down, tumbling in the air… brrrr! Do not always take things for granted, is the general message of this series, which I highly support.
Somehow when all that weapons were fired and bombs were exploding the first few minutes, I expected Doomsday Clock to start in. It didn’t happen though.
On 2008.01.20 at 11:39 pm Pipoka wrote:
Some very shocking images I remember also… that guy jumping from the World Trade Center, slowly going down, tumbling in the air… brrrr! Do not always take things for granted, is the general message of this series, which I highly support. [/quote:3bmn1ww9]
I saw a documentary about 9-11 on discovery channel i think, and those images of people jumping from the towers are stuck in my mind.
On 2008.01.21 at 6:30 pm Superlordspamulon wrote:
What i think is more shocking, and has stuck with me more is that the US government set it up.
30,000 (or whatever) dead. Just so that they could start a fucking war to make money.
The complete lack of morality there just makes me feel sick and makes me wish they were all assassinated
On 2008.01.21 at 8:06 pm Anonymous wrote:
On 2008.01.21 at 8:20 pm Superlordspamulon wrote:
Some of you don’t remember 9-11? I remember watching it live, I must be old.
As for the U.S. Government setting it up? Wow. You honestly believe that? Where’s your proof? I have to laugh it off when people say things like that.[/quote:9d8mob6i]
Watch the documentary.
It covers the details in greater detail than i ever could.
But i’ll list a few things that i remember.
Firstly – the way the buildings collapsed. It was a pancake effect, where each floor detaches itself from the central…pole thingy… and falls straight down. These normally fall at near free fall level, the twin towers being no exception. However, this situation normally only occurs under controlled demolition levels – i.e, the central support strut is cut at a certain angle (which, btw the central strut thingy on the twin towers WAS, for both of them.) and then explosions are set off, a large one on bottom most level. Now how do you suspect that a plane crashing into the tower at a high altitude is gonna replicate these effects? There is no way that could’ve happened the way the government/media in america has claimed it did.
And i doubt the "terrorists" were co-ordinated enough to be able to get past security, cut a huge section into the support strut, plant explosives AND get away without being caught and the explosives being found.
Bleh. i can’t be arsed to state all the other evidence. It’s long, complicated, and i can’t remember every detail of it.
I IMPLORE you to watch the video!
Yes, watch it with a critical mind set. Don’t take everything you see on it as fact. Think it out yourself. But the evidence points to something greater than a mindless act of terrorism.
Watch the documentary.
On 2008.01.21 at 9:26 pm Pipoka wrote:
Some of you don’t remember 9-11? I remember watching it live, I must be old.
As for the U.S. Government setting it up? Wow. You honestly believe that? Where’s your proof? I have to laugh it off when people say things like that.[/quote:dptfmiqi]
Of course i remember that ! I was leaving my home with popcorns to see a movie in my neighbour’s house and my ister received a message on her cell phone. We ran home, turned on TV and it was passing on he news !
On 2008.01.21 at 9:34 pm Arthur wrote:
In a way Return To Comfort is right. Other documentaries on Discovery or National Geographic showed other visions on this Twin Towers terror case, and also other visions on that collapse effect. Sorry, I don’t know the details. And I’m no building/demolition expert also. So I couldn’t tell which party is right and which party is wrong. And I watched that whole 9-11 thing also live on tv when it happened…
However, and I go all the way with Superlordspamulon here, go watch that documentary. Don’t be influenced by the brainwashing (shock-)effects (that’s what I have VERY much against these type of documentaries) and the very 1-sided point of view. Do not take their answers for granted or even for truth, because I don’t believe it is the truth they are telling. But at least it gives another view, and some questions remain…
And, forgive me (or not), but I do believe that some people, powerful people, are willing to kill their own citizens for more power, more money, or just out of pure evil. History showed it happens. I couldn’t tell however if it happened in this case… Anyway, judge for yourself!
On 2008.01.22 at 7:45 pm BleedingTheOrchid wrote:
yeah exactly see this bush cv altogether
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been \"lost\" and is not available.
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
I began my career in the oil business in Midland Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.
With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.
With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father’s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President of the United States, after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues.
I’m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My \"poorest millionaire,\" Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record -holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any President in U.S. history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States Government.
I’ve broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.
On 2008.01.22 at 7:47 pm BleedingTheOrchid wrote:
I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
I refused to allow inspector’s access to U.S. \"prisoners of war\" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US election).
I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.
I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, 2001, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. Citizens and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.
In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear \"Tactical Bunker Buster,\" a WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father’s library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. I specified that my sealed documents will not be available for 50 years.
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