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Topic: Request to borrow: watermarked Zeitgeist or TFE

This topic contains 27 replies, has 3,961 voices, and was last updated by Profile photo of Cool As Ice Cream Cool As Ice Cream 8 years, 1 month ago.

On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

Since these are very hard to find to buy, and also quite expensive, I’m looking for a watermarked Zeitgeist or TheFutureEmbrace cd that I can borrow.

I’m interested in the cd. I can’t do anything with a sealed copy that has to remain sealed.

As the owner, you set the conditions. For example, if your name is on the cd, or you know the person the watermarked cd is linked to, you can request that I keep no copies of the audio.
I want to try to rip the audio, but if you don’t want any copies to exist, I promise I will delete the results (if any) immediately afterwards.

I will pay for all costs. And I will send the cd back the day after I receive it. So you won’t have to miss it for long.

I prefer a copy of Zeitgeist. And I also prefer it if I would be allowed to keep a copy of the audio. For example, if you bought the cd on eBay. But I’m happy with any copy, really.

Thank you for your attention.

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On blueczarina wrote:

i have a watermarked TFE if you mean this here. i don’t think it was that expensive though.

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1656

but you can borrow it if you want and i don’t care if you rip the audio. :wink: and it was unsealed when i got it.

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

Yep, that’s the one.

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On blueczarina wrote:

well, you can borrow it if you don’t find a Zeitgeist one to borrow since i’m sure it will come back in one piece. :P

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

Anyone owns an opened Zeitgeist?

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On last_rose_of_summer wrote:

sorry, i have a dumb question… what is a watermarked cd?

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

It’s an advance promo cd, sent out to journalists before the album was released. It is heavily protected against copying, and the audio is watermarked. This means that if you manage to copy the audio, and it would appear online, they can track down what cd it came from. Because every cd has the name of the receiver on it, and every cd has a unique watermark in the audio. They do this to prevent leaks of the album.

Both Billy Corgan’s TheFutureEmbrace and Smashing Pumpkins’ Zeitgeist have been released on a watermarked cd. (The identity of the receiver has been hidden on the scans on spfreaks.com; the unique number and name of the receiver are blacked out.)
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1656
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1620

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On blueczarina wrote:

i didn’t notice that they blacked it out. :wink:

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On last_rose_of_summer wrote:

cool, thanks for the explanation :)

so, are they not necessarily the finished product? they might make changes before they release it to the public?

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On amnesia wrote:

I might maybe get my hands on a Zeitgeist cd soon if my suppiler says he can get it for me, but it will cost me 250 bucks.The cd should be in mint accroding to him, not sure if it sealed or not, ill let you know Bram.

In loving memory of Bimbolin.
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On some pumpkins wrote:

cool, thanks for the explanation :)

so, are they not necessarily the finished product? they might make changes before they release it to the public?[/quote:145zedr6]

thats what my question was gonna be. why would you want that particular audio? is it unmastered?

what's wrong with you is good for what's wrong with me
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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

nah, unfortunately not. some people thought the watermarked discs contained the unmastered audio, but on both TFE and zeitgeist, the audio is mastered.

note that i don’t necessarily want the audio, hence my promise to delete it afterwards if that would be requested.

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On mickyshambles wrote:

I might maybe get my hands on a Zeitgeist cd soon if my suppiler says he can get it for me, but it will cost me 250 bucks.The cd should be in mint accroding to him, not sure if it sealed or not, ill let you know Bram.[/quote:1imn7mba]

haha, you sound like a drug addict – which we all are in a way. :D

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On amnesia wrote:

haha, you sound like a drug addict – which we all are in a way. :D[/quote:37625mgs]

Hello, my name is Ayoe and im a Smashing Pumpkins addict. :lol:

In loving memory of Bimbolin.
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On Anonymous wrote:
haha, you sound like a drug addict – which we all are in a way. :D[/quote:1huebhvn]

Hello, my name is Ayoe and im a Smashing Pumpkins addict. :lol:[/quote:1huebhvn]
:lol:
aren’t we all :P

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On blueczarina wrote:
haha, you sound like a drug addict – which we all are in a way. :D[/quote:2traynvb]

Hello, my name is Ayoe and im a Smashing Pumpkins addict. :lol:[/quote:2traynvb]

we shouls change the name of this site to SPfreaks anonymous :lol:

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On amnesia wrote:

we shouls change the name of this site to SPfreaks anonymous :lol:[/quote:asukmcgo]

:lol:

In loving memory of Bimbolin.
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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

The first step is admitting that you have a problem.

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On blueczarina wrote:

The first step is admitting that you have a problem.[/quote:6onmq9e0]

i’ll admit it, but i will also admit i’m ok with my problem. 8)

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On last_rose_of_summer wrote:
The first step is admitting that you have a problem.[/quote:2g4fb5xi]

i’ll admit it, but i will also admit i’m ok with my problem. 8)[/quote:2g4fb5xi]

me too!! :D

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On Sven wrote:

Bram knows and now the rest too and I don’t care I own a Zeitgeist advance promo watermarked cdr.
Somehow when I play the official cd next to this one – recently did with a friend on a Bang and Olafson top gear set — there’s a difference, somewhere, somehow…
I know — looking at the wavs and all this doesn’t make ANY sense-
Still: I play ZG from the advance and not the official release.
To my ears: it DOES sound not in a way less bad or better or anything else than just: different – more according to my taste…
Still – I think I am slowly going crazy… ;)

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On Arthur wrote:

Since these are very hard to find to buy, and also quite expensive, I’m looking for a watermarked Zeitgeist or TheFutureEmbrace cd that I can borrow.[/quote:12g7scmh]
Ermm… Cool… last year, December the 19th, you wrote this in the "What is the latest Pumpkins related item you bought?" topic… WTF happened? It never arrived? Did I miss something?

I recently got a watermarked Zeitgeist.

Dance dance dance to the radio / Put on your red shoes and dance the blues
(I mean: partay!!! :D )[/quote:12g7scmh]

Billy Corgan, December 2, 2008 : "Not everyone understands our death trip. But you do. And that's what matters."
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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

Nah, all went well. But I’m looking for a second copy of Zeitgeist.

I’m no longer looking for another copy of TheFutureEmbrace. I’m swimming in those these days.

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On amnesia wrote:

Nah, all went well. But I’m looking for a second copy of Zeitgeist.

I’m no longer looking for another copy of TheFutureEmbrace. I’m swimming in those these days.[/quote:2xkntmsr]

How many do you have of those Bram ?
If you got a sealed one, would you mind selling one, i got one thats used only.Always trying to improve my collection.

In loving memory of Bimbolin.
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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

I had two sealed copies, but I opened one.
I believe I have five copies now. Not sure.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I have owned three sealed copies (not at the same moment), but I opened two. Me so silly! :D
Anyway, sorry, I have no spare sealed copy.

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On amnesia wrote:

Why did you open both of them?

In loving memory of Bimbolin.
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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

well, my first copy was sealed. i opened it. (duh.)

then i got two more sealed copies. because i was looking for another open copy (see start thread), i finally decided to open another one.

not much later i found two cheap opened copies. didn’t really need them, but bought them anyway.
if only i had waited a bit longer with opening the second one…

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On Cool As Ice Cream wrote:

found another copy of zeitgeist on ebay today. not looking to borrow anything anymore.

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